Re: SBS 4.5, Proxy Server 2 and W2K Client Running OE to access Hotmail

Not sure about that as I had a older email address that was working for a
few months after they said it wouldn't but then it stopped. So I guess I
was a grandfather for only a few months ;-). I'd just have your client pay
the $20...

--
Allan Williams



"Bruce E. Breeding" <bebl.it@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>I am successfully sync-ing with hotmail via Outlook Express on one of my
> clients attached to my SBS 4.5.
>
> I have received confirmation from Hotmail that there is a "grandfather"
> provision for those email addresses already established. In otherwords, I
> should still be able to use HTTP and get directl access.
>
> My current problem is that one client can do it, but another cannot.
> Obviously there are different settings on the two machines. Now, to find
> the differences ...
>
> -- Bruce
>
> "Al Williams" <donotreplydirect@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:%23jdoB1oSFHA.2128@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Your thread seems to be buried in another but hopefully you will see
>> this.
>>
>> Hotmail changed a while back and no longer allow direct access via HTTP
>> unless you upgrade to the "plus" ($) account. Even if you turn off proxy
>> you will probably get:
>>
>> Could not connect to Hotmail as xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Hotmail no longer allows email access via Outlook Express for free email
>> accounts.
>>
>> Please visit http://www.hotmail.com/oe to learn more.
>>
>> Account: 'Hotmail', Server:
>> 'http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp', Protocol: HTTPMail,
>> Server Response: 'Access to Hotmail via Outlook and Outlook Express now
>> requires a subscription. Please sign up at http://upgrade.msn.com', Port:
> 0,
>> Secure(SSL): No, Error Number: 0x800CCCF6
>> ----------------
>>
>> As for installing proxy, it should NOT be done via the SBS console on 2K
> or
>> XP machines. You should simply install it from the server "mspclnt"
>> share
>> (run setup.exe). Note that 2K/XP installs can have a bug where the
>> WSPCPL32.CPL file needs to be copied to the system32 directory manually
>> (simply copy the file from another PC).
>>
>> -------------------
>>
>> As for Win XP Windows Update issues with proxy 2.0 I have found the
>> following usually works:
>> 1) Setup PC to use proxy server in Internet connections
>> 2) At the command line, run "proxycfg -u". It should prompt back
> indicating
>> the proxy is 10.0.0.2 port 80 (assuming SBS 4.5 defaults).
>> 3) Turn OFF automatic updates when manually updating - it interferes with
>> manual updates in my experience.
>> 4) Run Windows update
>>
>> -----------------
>> As for a proxy reference, the only one I know of is at:
>> http://proxyfaq.networkgods.com/default.htm
>>
>> --
>> Allan Williams
>>
>>
>>
>> "Bruce E. Breeding" <bebl.it@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:%23rr4ZAbRFHA.2384@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > (1) Okay, I've seen all of the "you really should upgrade SBS"
>> > comments
>> > on
>> > this list. That simply is not an option for me right now.
>> > (2) I am receiving the following error when trying to access hotmail
> via
>> > Outlook Express:
>> > "Unable to poll for new messages on your HTTP server. Account:
> 'Hotmail',
>> > Server: 'http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp', Protocol:
>> > HTTPMail, Server Response: 'Proxy authentication required', Port: 0,
>> > Secure(SSL): No, Error Number: 0x800CCC37"
>> > (3) Undoubtedly this is a problem related to MS Proxy Client and / or
>> > Proxy
>> > Server. On the W2K client in question, I deleted the Client Proxy, and
>> > attempted to reload it via telling the server to add software to the
> user
>> > on
>> > this particular client machine. I am receiving an error that suggests
> the
>> > proxy client software is not compatible with the operating system, and
> I'm
>> > wondering if some of the new "critical fixes" I've downloaded have
> "fixed"
>> > my machine to make it incompatible with Client Proxy.
>> > (4) I have been able to restore internet access to the client machine
> in
>> > question without Client Proxy (which I did not even know I could do).
>> > I
>> > suspect I will have to live without the OE access to hotmail.
>> > (5) As a positive byproduct of fiddling with Proxy Server (and the
> three
>> > subcomponents) on the server, my XP client machines were finally able
>> > to
>> > overcome the proxy problem they had been having, and now have been able
> to
>> > download all the patches to XP.
>> > (6) I have been trying to fully understand Proxy Server since 1999,
> when
>> > I
>> > purchased and installed the SBS. I've re-read the documentation I've
>> > found
>> > on microsoft.com, but it doesn't tell me enough. Is there a known
>> > reference
>> > book that tells me everything I want to know about Proxy Server 2.0
>> > (running
>> > under SBS 4.5)?
>> >
>> > Any other suggestions (besides upgrading the SBS)?
>> >
>> > Bruce
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>


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